Even with Recent Problems, College Rankings Likely to Remain
2023-01-08
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1Students and college advisors agree that there are problems with a popular college ranking system in the United States.
2The magazine U.S. News and World Report produces the rankings.
3At the same time, the critics do not believe the rankings will end anytime soon.
4The list of recent problems related to college rankings is a long one.
5At the start of 2022, Moshe Porat, former leader of the business school at Temple University in Philadelphia, was sentenced to 14 months in prison.
6A court had found him guilty of giving false information to U.S. News and World Report that raised his school's ranking.
7He was also ordered to pay a large financial penalty.
8Over the summer, Columbia University professor Michael Thaddeus said he believed some of the data the university sent to the magazine were incorrect.
9As a result, the university held back its numbers and was not included in U.S. News and World Report's 2023 rankings.
10The publication also removed Columbia from past lists.
11And finally, in autumn, a number of top law schools protested the rankings.
12They restricted some information they sent to the magazine.
13The protesting schools included Yale, Stanford, Harvard and the University of California - Berkeley.
14In all, nine of the top 14 law schools ranked by U.S. News and World Report joined the protest.
15The leaders of the law schools said the magazine does not consider some important information.
16For example, they said the magazine does not show how the schools prepare students for work in public service.
17Heather Gerken is the head of Yale's law school. She called the magazine's product -- ranking schools -- "nearly impossible."
18She noted that all law schools are different and a "one-size-fits-all" system "cannot provide an accurate picture."
19In early 2023, U.S. News and World Report answered the criticism.
20The magazine said it would change its system.
21The rankings would not penalize schools whose graduates moved on to advanced degree programs or important, but low-paying, jobs in public service.
22In addition, the magazine said it would no longer center so much of its final number on the opinions of law professors, lawyers and judges.
23The law schools, however, continued to say they would not cooperate.
24Heading into 2023, some schools, such as Columbia, will be unranked.
25Other schools are reconsidering their involvement with rankings.
26One expert, however, said rankings are still an important way for students to get extra information about colleges.
27Allen Koh is the chief executive at Cardinal Education, a company in Northern California that helps students think about colleges and prepare their applications.
28He said he does not think the protest will affect the reputations of law schools at Yale or Harvard.
29In addition, he said it is unlikely universities will stop their participation in the rankings.
30"For any university that is considered hyper-elite now, it will be considered hyper-elite later. And we don't think that'll change."
31In fact, Koh said he thinks universities will continue to try to get good rankings even though "everybody understands rankings are imperfect."
32He noted that rankings are especially important for international students who cannot visit colleges before deciding to attend.
33"Your ranking - A - helps attract talent. B - instills pride for people who have already graduated.
34The better ranking you have, everyone who's already gone there, their degrees are getting more valuable."
35Koh pointed out that a school's ability to raise money improves as its ranking improves, which permits it to open new buildings and create more programs.
36He called it a "virtuous cycle."
37Sarju Poudel of Nepal recently finished his mechanical engineering degree from the University of Texas-Tyler.
38Tyler is a city in the eastern part of the state, not far from Louisiana.
39Poudel said the process of choosing a college in the U.S. was "overwhelming."
40But, he said he never considered just a college's rankings.
41He wanted to make sure he received full financial aid at a school that supported computer science, physics and engineering.
42"As long as the programs and university was regionally accredited, it passed my criteria for consideration," he said.
43Now that he has graduated from college in the U.S., Poudel said he thinks higher-ranked schools can sometimes provide better possibilities for their students.
44For example, "high-ranking colleges may indicate availability of more funds, and (therefore) more research and project opportunities."
45Still, when he gives advice to students from Nepal, he said he tells them to ignore rankings.
46He pushes them to explore "their programs, professors' backgrounds, projects and events related to their program and availability of internships."
47Kartik Sundaram of India is finishing an advanced degree at the University of Michigan.
48The first thing he did when thinking about colleges was look up rankings, "just like I would if I was looking to buy a laptop."
49"Did I think they were important? Yes. Do I think they are important now? No."
50The rankings, he said, were good because they gave him a starting point for his research.
51From there, he could look for more details, such as how often students graduate in four years.
52"Because I did not want to pay for a fifth year," he said.
53His advice for international students considering universities to attend?
54"Don't sweat [the rankings] too much," he said, adding, "No matter how much research you do, it's unlikely you'll even get close to half of the whole picture."
55I'm Dan Friedell. And I'm Jill Robbins.
1Students and college advisors agree that there are problems with a popular college ranking system in the United States. The magazine U.S. News and World Report produces the rankings. 2At the same time, the critics do not believe the rankings will end anytime soon. 3The list of recent problems related to college rankings is a long one. 4At the start of 2022, Moshe Porat, former leader of the business school at Temple University in Philadelphia, was sentenced to 14 months in prison. A court had found him guilty of giving false information to U.S. News and World Report that raised his school's ranking. He was also ordered to pay a large financial penalty. 5Over the summer, Columbia University professor Michael Thaddeus said he believed some of the data the university sent to the magazine were incorrect. As a result, the university held back its numbers and was not included in U.S. News and World Report's 2023 rankings. The publication also removed Columbia from past lists. 6Law schools back out 7And finally, in autumn, a number of top law schools protested the rankings. They restricted some information they sent to the magazine. The protesting schools included Yale, Stanford, Harvard and the University of California - Berkeley. 8In all, nine of the top 14 law schools ranked by U.S. News and World Report joined the protest. 9The leaders of the law schools said the magazine does not consider some important information. For example, they said the magazine does not show how the schools prepare students for work in public service. 10Heather Gerken is the head of Yale's law school. She called the magazine's product -- ranking schools -- "nearly impossible." She noted that all law schools are different and a "one-size-fits-all" system "cannot provide an accurate picture." 11In early 2023, U.S. News and World Report answered the criticism. The magazine said it would change its system. The rankings would not penalize schools whose graduates moved on to advanced degree programs or important, but low-paying, jobs in public service. In addition, the magazine said it would no longer center so much of its final number on the opinions of law professors, lawyers and judges. 12The law schools, however, continued to say they would not cooperate. 13What comes next? 14Heading into 2023, some schools, such as Columbia, will be unranked. Other schools are reconsidering their involvement with rankings. One expert, however, said rankings are still an important way for students to get extra information about colleges. 15Allen Koh is the chief executive at Cardinal Education, a company in Northern California that helps students think about colleges and prepare their applications. 16He said he does not think the protest will affect the reputations of law schools at Yale or Harvard. In addition, he said it is unlikely universities will stop their participation in the rankings. 17"For any university that is considered hyper-elite now, it will be considered hyper-elite later. And we don't think that'll change." 18In fact, Koh said he thinks universities will continue to try to get good rankings even though "everybody understands rankings are imperfect." He noted that rankings are especially important for international students who cannot visit colleges before deciding to attend. 19"Your ranking - A - helps attract talent. B - instills pride for people who have already graduated. The better ranking you have, everyone who's already gone there, their degrees are getting more valuable." 20Koh pointed out that a school's ability to raise money improves as its ranking improves, which permits it to open new buildings and create more programs. He called it a "virtuous cycle." 21International students 22Sarju Poudel of Nepal recently finished his mechanical engineering degree from the University of Texas-Tyler. Tyler is a city in the eastern part of the state, not far from Louisiana. 23Poudel said the process of choosing a college in the U.S. was "overwhelming." But, he said he never considered just a college's rankings. He wanted to make sure he received full financial aid at a school that supported computer science, physics and engineering. 24"As long as the programs and university was regionally accredited, it passed my criteria for consideration," he said. 25Now that he has graduated from college in the U.S., Poudel said he thinks higher-ranked schools can sometimes provide better possibilities for their students. For example, "high-ranking colleges may indicate availability of more funds, and (therefore) more research and project opportunities." 26Still, when he gives advice to students from Nepal, he said he tells them to ignore rankings. He pushes them to explore "their programs, professors' backgrounds, projects and events related to their program and availability of internships." 27Kartik Sundaram of India is finishing an advanced degree at the University of Michigan. The first thing he did when thinking about colleges was look up rankings, "just like I would if I was looking to buy a laptop." 28"Did I think they were important? Yes. Do I think they are important now? No." 29The rankings, he said, were good because they gave him a starting point for his research. From there, he could look for more details, such as how often students graduate in four years. "Because I did not want to pay for a fifth year," he said. 30His advice for international students considering universities to attend? 31"Don't sweat [the rankings] too much," he said, adding, "No matter how much research you do, it's unlikely you'll even get close to half of the whole picture." 32I'm Dan Friedell. And I'm Jill Robbins. 33Dan Friedell wrote this story for Learning English. 34______________________________________________________________________ 35Words in This Story 36rank -v. to put a group of things in order, usually from best to worst 37accurate -adj. correct or proper 38penalize -v. to punish 39advanced degree -n. a level of education that comes after a bachelor's degree in the U.S. 40application -n. a document one fills out in order to be considered for a job or a place at a school 41participation -n. involvement in an activity 42hyper-elite -adj. one of the very best 43instill -v. to fill with something 44virtuous -adj. honorable or worthy 45overwhelming -adj. a feeling when something is difficult or hard to manage 46accredited -adj. something that has official approval 47criteria -n. one piece of important information 48indicate -v. to give a signal 49____________________________________________________________________ 50We want to hear from you. 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